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Started by JOHN BELLAMY May 22, 2011.
Floyd, I definitely will share what I learn from the Body Electric workshop here in Cleveland on October 10 and 11; they have contacted me as they knew I had a massage table and want to borrow it. From what I understand, there will be 20 men. I laughed when the local coordinator called for me to make payment. He said, "Do you have any trouble being nude I front of other men?" Of course, my retort to his was "Heavens no." In fact, I tend to be a nudist and am usually nude all the time in my apartment. Whenever I go somewhere where there is clothing optional, I never wear any. In my opinion, the male body is the most beautiful object in the world. I did read an article that said that the US is the worst country in the world when it comes to one man's body touching another man's body. Why? It goes back to those Puritanical ideas years ago that the body is dirty as is sex. Well, that is why we are all taking the Body Electric to prove them wrong :)
Martin, will this be your first BE workshop? Enjoy and share your experience and thoughts here.
I will be attending the two day Body Electric workshop here in Cleveland, OH from Oct. 10-11.
While I worked one summer at Easton Mountain Upstate New York northeast of Albany, they held all three workshops dealing with Body Electic. I do wish that I could have participated in the workshops myself, but being employed did not give me the opportunity to do so. I really wish to be able to do that as soon as posssible.
I guess my quibble is the use of the word "all" in the notion that you can learn all about BE in a single workshop. The introductory workshop teaches you how to do "Taoist Erotic massage". If you're already adept in body work and breath work, and all you want to know about is Taoist Erotic massage, then indeed you can pick that up at one workshop and add it to you bag of tricks. However, you'll miss out on the things that happen to you at other workshops, particularly the week long intensives. Maybe you don't need or want this, but I sure did, and from what I heard in sharing circles, most of the others at these events were very grateful for their experiences.
I have been practicing intense sexuality and multiple full body - out of body - connections with the Divine - Within :- and the Light Body Without : - over the Bridge of Enlightenment :- using Conscious Connected Breath and other body techniques,- for over 25 years. I have never attended a class hosted by anyone - ever - and have channeled information and techniques direct from the Divine for decades - and there are many who resist as unworthy, those who have not done a class or read a book - those who do not have a diploma - or who studied under some great master... and assuming this to be unworthy ;- is unenlightened thought. As who taught the Master - where did their wisdom's come from?
For me - the only true place to gain wisdom and knowledge was through the Divine Within and I have never seen the requirement - for me - to attend a class and study under a 'go between' - brilliant as they may be.
Naming something - Giving it a chant - a colour - an Om - limits it as soon as you do so. Limiting the Divine is also unenlightened - although sometimes needed in order to allow the limited mind of man to comprehend and understand some of what is available. Man cannot comprehend the magnitude of what is available unless it is limited and made small in colour, with its own name, chant and Om. Man's tiny conscious mind cannot accept anything as grand, as it is invisible to our Conscious Minds Eye - and only through opening our Un / Sub Conscious Mind's Eye, can we ever hope to gain enlightenment, and not through arguing over words and meanings that are lost in translation within the hu - mans mind, but by a direct connection to the word and meanings allowed us in this physical body - through the celebration of the Agape of old - and through being open and ready - and only then will the conscious mind accept the truth and be at one with God - having an In Body Experience.
Passion - Desire - a Coming Together as One - the masculine and the feminine within - uniting within the individual as the One Sex - the One Being - feeling the intense Love held within - cannot be taught. It has to be experienced, as how many Priests or Rabbi's have ever had a Godly experience - a true connection with the Divine ?
The Pope is said to be God's ' Man on Earth' - but judging from many past Popes and their actions, I doubt any have actually touched on the Divine and certainly know little about the Grand Design.That is reserved for the individual who is ready.
Helpful clarification, Satori. Thanks. I agree.
Good day all..
If I may.. I wanted to add from what I've read. I do not believe John is downplaying B.E. What I have read consistently from him is that he's saying, you only need to do 1 workshop of B.E. to get what its all about. You don't need to do anything else beyond that.
The other stuff -- IMHO is just enhancements to the original workshop. It's like taking a baking course.. you only need the first course to bake a cake. Everything else is enhancements on that... different styles and different outlooks and different techniques with the same outcome... baking a cake.
I think the triggering mechanism for the defense is perhaps the reference that all the other workshops are B.S. -- from the standpoint that you only need the first -- I can see that. From the standpoint that others want or may have interest in whatever else is put out in B.E. -- then it may not be.
I was shown the B.E. techniques in a California Men's gathering event from several folks who took the B.E. course. I recall one or a few saying that the other workshops add to the first in the sense of showing you other ways or techniques, but that you don't necessarily need to go through all the others to be able to do B.E.
I've not gone through the training or taken any other classes. I understood what was being done from other backgrounds I have -- tantric and taoist sexual energy.
I'm offering my post as just a different way to look at this. There's no offense intended from it.
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Dear me. How some people read and react on things they are simply wrong about and will not then hear any alternative. Now Hugh joins in with a wrong assumption and I am very pleased for him to have had so many good experiences with BE.
Maybe he needs to re read what was stated and not jump to the wrong assumption.
Can anyone tell me why BE is no longer offering workshops in so many places any more ? In the UK they have all but vanished.
I've been reading this thread and also came to the conclusion that John was warning people away from Body Electric workshops. I started doing BE workshops in 1988 when Joe Kramer made his first trip to Boston. The work was scary to contemplate, but once I was there, it was safe and a place of great learning. I don't think that this has changed in the last 25 years. Since then, I've done a few dozen BE workshops and come to know many of the facilitators who have been great friends and guides. I've done other erotic workshops and from time to time have encountered facilitators who were in over their heads - unable to hold safe space or teach coherently. I'm very grateful for how BE work has transformed my life, opened my heart, and given me a place in a community of men. This wasn't just a one-shot thing - it evolved over a number of experiences. I don't doubt that these gifts are still there for those able to receive them.
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